back in the day, russell and rutherford would hold debates with other religious leaders.
why has jehovah's witnesses stopped doing that?
i think it would be very interesting to see how they would hold up on a debate now.
JW's are too afraid to even attempt to defend the org's teachings with anyone who appears to be Bible-savvy.
If someone has a good knowledge of the Bible and JW dogma, the JW's "apostate alarm bell" will immediately ring, prompting a question which stops the discussion, "Did you used to be a JW?"
If all else fails, they can use 2 Timothy 2:23 to save themselves from embarrassment - "Further, reject foolish and ignorant debates, knowing that they produce fights."
i am over the moon today!.
just want to share my joy with all of you.
just yesterday my closest n bestest (for emphasis) friend hugged me so tight n so long n revealed that my friend is starting to feel normal again.
my never a jw dad tol me that my kid brother (32) is an elder.
it bothered me, i genuinely thought he was just going through the motions for the sake of his wife and our mum.. interestingly, dad was annoyed that he doesn't see so much of my brother lately and that my mum (uber jw) always makes excuses for him.. what a surprise.
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Nicalaou - I'm sure many here will testify that as soon as a "brother" exhibits the potential requirements to "join the team" of appointed men, elders will quickly begin to groom him very quickly.
is there any transparency in how many hours on the ministry the governing body members do on the ministry?
by this i mean the physical act of going door to door in their area.
i guess it is plausible that they would count overseas trips and working on publications as part of their ministry, but this is not what they encourage from the jw on the street.. is it possible for a gb member to be reproved or otherwise for not going out in service?
Field service is a job for the minions, not for the 'slave.' The 'slave' directs the work, silly!
VIDIOT: The disturbing image of the little girl (about 3 years old) who was enlisted to cry repeatedly for a Watchtower article photo shoot a few years ago - until they got "the" shot - definitely crossed a line in the Christian sand.
The org and the kid's parents should have been prosecuted for child abuse.
a friend of mine recently encountered two jws at a cart.. he asked them if they were out witnessing.. they said, "no, we're not witnessing, but you can take any of the literature.".
he asked, "would you like to talk with me about jesus?".
they said, "no, just take the literature and move on.".
Nope!
Too many people know far too much about the org nowadays, so JW minions are fearful of conversing.
Move on. :)
i understand why the witnesses won't actually "reason" from the scriptures; because they will have to come to grips with the fact that others have their own reasons, scripture-based, for believing differently than the jw's.. the "reasoning" book was supposed to arm the r&f with solid scriptural backing that could withstand most in-depth conversations.
so, why is it gathering dust now?
was there some doctrinal issue specifically?.
I think every Christian religion and their followers have their own reasoning for their own doctrines.
Just as Muslim & Jewish sects do. Every one of them has the sole truth about their religion.
@0:53 - "she got dishes, she got fish sticks and snacks/got it ready for the willy, got a chicken in the back.".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krp_fqcmsva .
"Get up in the morning, slaving for bread sir, so that every monk and beef-head........"
i just recently attended a circuit assembly and they asked that you did not share any video with anyone and i’m just wondering why this is .
Welcome MARPHINY.
The internet & social media is the biggest threat to the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society - aka JW's - in its entire history!
The WTBTS/JW's are right to be paranoid, because the org's cult status is now clearly exposed.
recently reflecting on some of the great songs that came out of that decade.
any favorites post them up .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuza6qijvfu.
First heard RAF from Italy singing his own compilation of SELF CONTROL when I was on a Mediterranean island back in the 80's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_TQjEn6cpQ
Laura Brannigan covered it, but not as good as the original.
The 12" version is even better - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w1Qo1awwI4
that is how much coffee me and another elder went through as we camped out all night until 7 a.m. outside the home where suspected jw fornicators we're staying.
little did i know what a powerful contrast that would prove to be when as an elder i was faced with another case involving the allegation of severe child sexual abuse.
we disfellowshipped the couple based completely on circumstantial evidence of sexual wrongdoing because they simply "stayed the entire night".
On the other side of the scales - a very close friend who was an elder (with another elder) had to sit outside all night watching a house where a sister had a 'worldly' boyfriend. She stayed all night, and left early next day.
Result? Zilch, nada, nothing! The 2 elders were told to forget it because there was not enough "evidence" to proceed. Why not? The sister had family connections with prominent JW heavyweights in the area.
Some are more equal than others.
